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Adam Powell, LeatherheadRenationalise now.
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Nicholas Bigsby, LondonBring back BR.
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Evin RyanWhy must they all privatise the profits and nationalise the losses?
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Michael Newton, DoncasterPut an end to all this privatisation. It’s the ordinary British person’s tax that built our once great railways – hence British Rail. Since privatisation just a mess.
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Jane Atchison, BristolI hate the ‘cheap’ advance fare system that enables train operators to dodge the real issue of extortionate fares when questioned about rises. Fares should be per mile.
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Bring Back British Rail
4 days ago
Back by popular demand! Bring Back British Rail enamel badges are finally back in stock. All proceeds go towards funding campaign materials and activities. Why not treat yourself 😊 ...
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Thats for travelling in the other direction Les
Bring back everything that's been privatised.
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Bring back British Rail? How do you react to this Nationalised part of the System's attempts to improve passenger services? www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-57510262
Bring back the CEGB as well. Let's have reliable and AFFORDABLE electric power
British Rail was just not that good! At least the trains have improved. More investment is key.
I remember the “good old days” of British Rail. Overstaffed. Under motivated. Filthy and unreliable trains. Couldn’t give a toss about the paying public, just as long as they remained state funded. Worst of all, run by politicians, with political agendas. The privatisation model isn’t perfect, but it’s a bloody sight better than the alternative.
Any chance we actually WILL bring back British Rail? I’ve been so hopeless lately, with the government using their supermajority in Parliament to steamroll their agenda on us! Don’t get me started on how they’re destroying the NHS!
Yes am with you
Got to the checkout on your shop, but you use PayPal! Paypal supports the apartheid and dehumanising of the Palestinians in Israel/Palestine. So I will not be buying from you!
your being hood winked into loosing more of the service and system. Network Rail becomes British Rail and the sections are still operated by the franchise holders, Privatisation has moved vast amount of freight onto the road and this "New" British Rail will not put it back on the rails. the yards and lines to handle the freight have all gone. also the Inter City sign is the wrong way round.
Bring back British Rail and the crap wages. I'm up for that.
Logo is round the wrong way.....
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2 weeks ago
We're really pleased to be opening our merch store again! Our popular Rail Card Wallets will be ready to dispatch next week. All proceeds go towards funding Bring Back British Rail materials and activities, so this is a great way to support our volunteer-run campaign 😊 ...
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I might buy one of these! I could keep not just my railcard but also my library card in it!
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Bring Back British Rail
3 weeks ago
The government’s ‘Great British Railways’ is privatisation rebranded ...
The government’s ‘Great British Railways’ is privatisation rebranded
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With the ‘fudged’ outcome of a review of England’s railways, the government has missed an opportunity to put passengers firstShare on FacebookShare on TwitterShare on Linked InShare by Email
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Give up and get the Chinese to take over the railways. You could say take it away Chinese!!
....... and a load of shit Japanese trains with structural faults that are barely 3 years old.
Scotrail will be taken into public ownership...properly. 🏴👍
What a surprise, Gor' Blimey, Who'd 'ave thought it?
Are these private people going to compensate the tax payer for years of upgrading of track and stations ect over the years billions have been spent renewing the railways infrastructure ? Remember all those weekends bank holidays Christmas renewing the tracks and singling systems are they going to inherent all that for sod all ??
Beggars belief at how gullible the British Public is1
Nobody expected a hard right wing Tory government to nationalise the railways, did they?
Face it the money was in the ROSCOs that is why HSBC, Santander were chosen to exploit the maximum profits out of the industry passing on the losses to through subsidies to the Rail operators eventually onto the public purse. When you write the rules to ignore sharp practice and guarantee no loss contracts that multinationals can wriggle out of when they realise they have overbid. Privatisation has been a corruption on scale never before. Let us not mention the property board that has discharged real estate in prime locations on the cheap to friends of the Tories. Shapps is a shitster, typical IT spiv snake oil salesman.
We already own the bit that costs money (the tracks and infrastructure) nicknamed Network Fail, and this simply means continued subsidies for Train operators such as the French, Dutch, Germans and a Hong Kong based company who all earn from OUR passengers and taxpayers, ironic after Brexit. This only squares with the Tory faithful due to the mantra of privatisation which costs the consumer more every single time, but gives more "choice". Quite how a train operator doesn't have a monopoly simply due to the nature of a railway is clever marketing. This is an absolute con, by the con servatives.
What a set of shits and the fools still fall for it !!
Put a different sticker on the same old faulty goods, we expect no less from an ideologically and morally bankrupt system.
Quite!!
The same government that sold it in the first place,get a grip
I attended conferences with the likes of. Prescot and MacDonnell all said return to nationalisation Blair said it ..We at RMT withdrew union funding from labour party told prescot to leave. union owned London flat the list goes on and on as most on here agree it's a further way to save the privateers of the industry money as it needs massive investment previous privateers have promised and left when failed this way we. as taxpayers pay them through.er...Great British Railways. (name makes you think it's ..British Railways ahhhh) yes you will get same old story Oh HST2 they will not take responsibility for that too many objections and fines for delays. Best let govt take it as Great British Railways then get contract to run it ..repair it ..after it's built at massive cost the govt could. upgrade all of the railway for that price new trains the lot ..jobs..just like the channel tunnel we build. it.. they run it that is the privateers philosophy
It's a step in the right direction (well more like a tiptoe really) I'll be glad at least to have the network looking like a single whole again, even if there is still private sector involvement in the background.
I agree we have to put an end to franchisee
It's pathetic....they never will doing anything else!
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Abolish rolling stock leasing companies!
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It's all a load of bollocks & bullshit
The IEP revolution has left rail in the red. Shows that trains aren't always perfect even if you buy or don't buy British. The number of Hitachi carriages amounted to large quantities. I wonder how will they fare with the warranty repairs. Window seating position is quite good but a bit cheap and nasty, it was Great Western's choice. Note that Transport of Wales has purchased large number of surplus Mk 4 coaching. Actually there's 45 of them on their books.
Surprised?....Nil pois!
Yep pathetic
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Bring Back British Rail
4 weeks ago
"This rail reform doesn’t go far enough, we’re still going to have the same private companies running the services: Arriva 🇩🇪, Govia 🇫🇷, Abellio 🇳🇱, Avanti 🇮🇹, MTR Corp 🇭🇰 So much for #GreatBritishRailways!" Listen to Bring Back British Rail's Ellie Harrison on BBC Radio 2's The Jeremy Vine 👇 ...
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We got to keep letting Foreign state subsidiaries keep running our Railways so they can cream it off and send it back to their homeland.
Isn't Great British Railways to be operated only in England? Something tells me the name for this new operation mainly had Daily Mail readers in mind.
Nationalisation in name only just like the NHS
Private companies will provide the trains and staff, but everything else : tracks, timetables and fares will be in public hands.
It’s just a flag shaggers name change that’s all
The global coalition for transparency and anti-corruption has put the UK "under review", heightening concerns about the government's commitment to openness following a series of scandals. news.sky.com/story/uk-government-censured-for-a-lack-of-transparency-and-accountability-12234248?... TOP UK JUDGE CALLS FOR CIVIL DISOBEDIENCE - [ ] www.churchmilitant.com/news/article/sc-judge-calls-for-mass-civil-disobedience?fbclid=IwAR2LU0_2p... Trading Freedom for 'Security' "If people are sufficiently frightened, their craving for security will make them submit to almost anything," Sumption remarked, explaining that "the Hobbesian bargain" — based on Hobbes' belief in the absolute State where people "resign their freedoms unconditionally and permanently into the hands of the State in return for security" — is "a very striking and very sinister development."
Old story. Never trust a tory
wouldn't give ear space to Vine the privileged tosser
Still subsidising foreign state owned railways
When Jeremy Corbyn stated he would renationalise their rail network, MSM and tories said this was ludicrous and Corbyn would bankrupt the country and the “easily influenced” brits bought into that notion and elected johnson. Today the tories have suggested a “re-nationalisation, of sorts” of the rail network, NOT to ensure lower fares and more reliable clean service for passengers, who are also British citizens, but to cut a huge slice of the “money cake” and again benefit themselves! The losers in this new policy will continue to be the “great British public”.....
On a related note, has anyone noticed how much harder it is to find bargain advance fares currently?
British Rail bad? The only complaints I remember were about the cheese sandwiches. Privatisation has been an exercise in irony... subsidies doubling immediately under privatisation, private railway companies being owned by foreign publicly-owned railways, etc. etc.
Arriva, Govia, Abellio, Avanti etc. etc. Chucking the name Great British Railways on top of names that sound like energy drinks or online banks is just putting lipstick on a pig.
Pete Waterman sure likes the sounds of his own voice. Even when he's talking bollox.
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4 weeks ago
Since 2009, we’ve been campaigning for a re-unified national rail network run for people not profit 🚆
With #GreatBritishRailways, we'll have greater unification, but the same private companies will still extract ££ millions from the system 💰💸 #notgreat bringbackbritishrail.org ...
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Read The Labour Party's proposal for a 'nationally integrated publicly owned railway', also called #GBRail labour.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/GB_Rail_Labour_Opposition_White_Paper.pdf
Read Grant Shapps' White Paper here: www.gov.uk/government/publications/great-british-railways-williams-shapps-plan-for-rail
Total nationalisation not perks for the berks that still insist the privatised model can make a contribution. Anywhere in Europe works this system? Remember railways in the UK have been subsidised since 2870!! And lastly for a very good belly laugh compare high speed trains in China and the US.
As much as there is a lot of (deserved) criticism that these reforms don't go anything like far enough.....one thing I am looking forward to is the restoration of the Rail Alphabet typeface for signage and a single homogeneous look to everything again instead of all these truly horrid liveries and signs.
Another gimmick by the torys when are people going to wake up
I would take the great out of it. British Rail would be appropriate for a publicly owned Railway ☘️
Wonder how much ink they could save over the next decade by dropping the word "Great" and just calling it, well, "British Railways". Has a certain ring to it, doesn't it?
Just a rebranding, with appropriate logo and Jack flags so that Johnson’s narcissism can be inflated even more. A greater profit will be extracted from the taxpayer and people will be fooled by the decorative, false patriotic trappings. Will ticket prices go down? Don’t hold your breath.
It sort of admits the current system is crap but still ring fences their mate's golden goose so ensures the Tory party still get their share in donations and the ministers have a some nice boardroom positions waiting for them.
So the Williams review is now the Williams-Schaps plan without Williams' original document geting any parliamentary or public scrutiny? The railways in England will be run by "Great British Railways". Can anybody else hear a sudden loud ringing of the bull5hit alarm?
It's a start isn't it , it goes some way into unifying the network again but it's hardly nationalisation , the services will still be privately run...but it's a start. it'll make full nationalisation later on that bit easier to carry out should there be an appitite to do it. i fear the removal of the etonian variant from power will probably be needed before that happens.
Our railways deserve so much better than the ideas & intentions of Grant Shapps.
A picture of Chester station?
Shouldn't this be called the "Willliams-Schapps-Green-Stockheath-Fox Plan for Rail" to take into account the other names that Toryboy has been known by?
Yet again the old euro-lie that EU regulations required that the track and the operation of train be split and stay privatized is being regurgitated "The pending changes to EU rail regulation, known as the fourth railway package, don’t require member states to privatise any aspect of their rail networks. Neither do they require any member to break up its national operator. There was an initial proposal for rail infrastructure and services to be split into separate organisations, which would have meant breaking up national operators, but the German chancellor, Angela Merkel, directly intervened and it was dropped ...... The three main components of the changes, which are currently awaiting European parliament approval, are that each member state liberalises passenger services; develops common operating standards for both trains and the workforce and has an independent infrastructure manager (even while ownership of infrastructure and services can be under the same company). When it comes to liberalising passenger services, the word “liberalise” is open to interpretation." theconversation.com/fact-check-do-new-eu-rules-make-it-impossible-to-renationalise-railways-61180
Softly softly, catcher monkey. It's one step in the right direction.
Won't hold my breath....I haven't been on a train for many years..just too expensive to go on spontaneous day trips anymore...the complications around getting tickets is ridiculous...If anything prices will go up and ordinary people wanting to travel on trains now and again will be priced out completely..Train travel should be for everyone, not just for daily commuters...
Great British Railways.......hahahahahahahahahaha
Some of us were out campaigning for the Labour Party against Tory Rail privatisation in 1993.
You guys need to keep pushing as this give a chance to nationalise the railway and bring back British rail and we need to start designing and building our own trains
Here's a prediction - split tickets will be stopped.
What does Labour's model look like in simple terms please
These big "plans" are nothing but bold empty statements to distract people from the areas they have consistently failed on, like social care and housing.
Yes it is a shame that England won't be following the example of Wales and Scotland in bringing back the rail operations in public ownership. But it is a step in the right direction. I guess the Tories are still wedded to the idea that private operators are more efficient which is rubbish.
They are tacitly conceding that the privatisation lash up has not worked.
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