Brian Cobb, Newton Abbot + ShareWhat a mess.
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Tim Byrne, Newcastle-upon-TyneNow the East Coast line is in public ownership, it is more efficient and makes a profit.
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Vikki Abols, LondonRail should be affordable to all, not just a rich person’s transport.
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Stephen Murray, GatesheadWe should have kept it as it was. Fares are too expensive. I travel by road as it’s cheaper.
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Stephanie Linford, South Woodham FerrersPlease do it.
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John Gilbert, BromleyHow is my station in Zone 4 while the one about half a mile from it – faster into London – is in Zone 6?
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1 day ago
'Northern rail could be renationalised, says transport secretary'. It can't come soon enough! Join our campaign for a publicly-owned railway run for people not profit: bringbackbritishrail.org ...
Northern rail could be renationalised, says transport secretary
Grant Shapps says it is not OK for trains to fail to arrive or for Sunday services to be lostShare on FacebookShare on TwitterShare on Linked InShare by Email
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You know I received similar arguments from privatisation fanatics citing that the Nationalised parts of the network have failed. Amazing how many think that when we gather hard facts from this page.
Renationalising it will solve what? Network Rail can't deliver projects on time ,CAF can't deliver rolling stock on time, the DfT vice like grip on everything will still be there, still at the mercy of th he idiotic local.transport executives like tfgm who couldn't run a bath.
Will be acid test for whichever government is in power. Make a success of nationalisation of this franchise and carry on. Fail and the call for further change will disappear very quickly. With cost of improvements the public will demand it will mean that money needed for HS 2 will be diverted and that project will open up in about 2040
Interesting read it says that half their trains are always late how do the government think they're going to improve on that when they gave Manchester half the railway they promised but still sent twice the traffic.
Doesn’t matter who has their name on the trains, if the manufacturers can’t deliver there are no new trains. Also won’t accelerate infrastructure problems causing delays such as two new platforms at Piccadilly, Extension of platforms at Leeds, completion of electrification in Manchester suburban and Stanage route or replacement of some pretty grotty I accessible stations.
Yes please. And for goodness sake get rid of the godawful units pictured. Seasick after 10 miles...
Seems to of got worse since Serco lost it and that says something, as Serco are not the greatest firm on earth.
Arguably has the shittiest rolling stock in the country.
Should have been sorted out before now, but with Failing Grailing at the helm what chance did we have.
No no a tory suggesting nationalising the railways!!! What next a tory buffoon as PM!
The 150s brought up from GWR are now as old as the stock BR built them to replace!
It was already nationalised, just not British. All the railways now belong to foreign state operators.......
What about the rail network that links the South west to London? Re nationalise THE WHOLE NETWORK and not just the north.
Not renationalised, a management company like Southern takes over. There is a difference
And then the rest
Didn’t nationalisation lead to beeching axe etc. Would renationalisation avoid that fate again
And hopefully ditch those 142’s
Followed by #Govia
About time
The Tories renationalising a part of the rail network. I thought private enterprise was so much better at running things than the public sector. Well well.
The sooner the better😁
It gets nationalised, the problems get fixed, it starts to produce an income again, then it goes out to tender to the highest bidder. Repeat ad nauseam...
Yeah about time an all all the greedy over seas company s CEOs and share holders milk the system it's a joke
Hope it’s renationalised and all other rail companies follow it🇻🇳🇻🇳🇻🇳
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Check out this display from the Museum of Neoliberalism, showing all our country's rail franchises now run by different foreign governments. Time to Bring Back British Rail! Join our campaign at: bringbackbritishrail.orgPrivatised UK train operators owned - in full or in part- by foreign governments. A display from the Museum of Neoliberalism, which we're crowdfunding on Indiegogo in order to open it in London next month. 11 days left and we're at 34% of our goal 😬. Still a way to go! There's a bunch of rewards for backers so please check it out: www.indiegogo.com/projects/museum-of-neoliberalism#/
Neoliberal theory presumes that the state should not intervene in or direct the free operation of markets. Yet in reality when new ‘free’ markets are created, they find themselves at key points subsidised, maintained, propped up or bailed out by national states. The display above shows which foreign states own significant amounts of British rail services since they were privatised.
In effect, since privatisation, our expensive but underinvested rail networks subsidise more efficient and cheaper public train services around Europe.
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Absolutely ridiculous that the taxpayer subsidises rail travel for other countries state-owned railways to make a profit. Complete madness! If there is room for profit, then it should be used to lower ticket prices and improve quality of service
An absolute national disgrace thanks to the greed and irresponsibility of the Tories. WE should own it😡
WE want our country back. lest own our own railways again
We have literally sold ourselves off. This is just one aspect and it has happened in many other industries.
Oh dear oh dear no train operator/franchisee owns the their part of the rail, they have a licence to run the trains for the area... trains are leased by ROSCOs/finance companies and the DfT has the ultimate say what can be done or not.
No need to list LNR and WMT as two different franchises, it’s one franchise with two different “brands”. WMT being the franchise with LNR & WMR as the brands. Oh and Stansted Express doesn’t need to be listed either as it’s part of the GA franchise.
At least they are state-owned, unlike e.g. VTWC.
My dad worked for BR back in the day. Im so glad he is not here to see this, it would have killed him. Just mortifying. Time to renationalise once and for all.
Whilst Keolis is majority owned by SNCF (French State) the other partner in Transport for Wales is Amey which is owned by Ferrovial S A who are a Spanish infrastructure and transport company. Still a sell out mind...
Our railways, whoever runs them, are still better than those in the US. My American friends told me that but I didn't believe them till I tried them for myself. As for 'dinner in the diner, nothing could be finer than to have your ham and eggs, etc' oh no...terrible food on AMTRAK...we had an inedible chicken burger on our way to Chicago, and we joke about British rail sandwiches! Our local station provides free bottled water during the summer months and we have book exchange shelves.
Let's make Britain British again, and take Britain's transport into public ownership and all the rest that have been privatised!!
Tory privatisation in the 1980s was accompanied by the statement that to compete in the world we had to follow EU rules by privatising assets, as apparently the EU wouldn’t let State owned organisations compete abroad. Hence selling our assets off. Which proved a) they lied about the EU, and b) we got well screwed by the Tories. Again, and again, and again......
Who owns Great Western? They're not on the list
This is totally unacceptable that we cannot have a state ran railway but other EEC countries do and take massive UK tax handouts to run their own state railways. This is another EU tax on the UK.
Forgot to say, a lot of this was done before the last Labour government came into power and they just sat on their arses.
Very odd - I thought the Tories were patriots and didn’t like Europe? Oh yes of course, they’re hypocrites...silly me! They’d rather another country ran our railways instead of this country running them as public services. The organisations mentioned are all publicly-owned in their countries of origin. How does that work? They must consider us a laughing stock. 🐀
This is so so wrong if when we get out EÚ the government need to take back our railways , as we paying for other countries get cheap train travel ..
Yet people think Brexit will "bring back control". The EU was never the problem, privitisation is!
Well, that's one way of sort-of staying nationalized and in the EU...
Failure of British Senior Management and Directors. Johnny Foreigner appears to be able to do a better job...
Pan-European public rail now!
Did no one want Southeastern?
Are we the only country with privatised rail?
Nationalisation is fine with everyone else!
Hence the need to renationalise them.
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1 month ago
Keith Williams' Rail Review is due to be published this autumn. Will it recommend we Bring Back British Rail? ...
UK rail industry reaches key political junction
Overcrowded trains, especially when strikes add to disruption, are a common complaint by those who must use British railroadsShare on FacebookShare on TwitterShare on Linked InShare by Email
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i hope so.
Well we live in hope, I despair at the state of our railways since privatisation..........
And...Electric/Gas/Post Office/Pilot training for the RAF/Water/buses...in fact everything that has gone to private companies. However...we need proper and knowledgeable managers to run them...NOT POLITICIANS!
I WISH .....
The way we are going it will probably recommend bringing back rationing.
We already know it's not going to recommend renationalisation. It's just another Beeching report.
Keith William's was a appointed stooge, with the whole point of the review being done for the prime purpose of stopping calls for re-nationalisation and thus 'Bring back British Rail' calls. It could not have been anything else whilst it was commissioned under the Tory's and during Greyling's watch. It will not be worth the paper that it is written on, leave alone the cost of producing a piece of rubbish!
Not a chance. They wouldn’t have commissioned it if there was even a chance of it.
Sadly not.
I wonder what the average age of UK trains are
Fares rising by as much as 2.8% while our railways suffer further in the hands of politics since John Major's White Paper was imposed.
Don't think it will bring British Rail back. Look more likely more money and more maintenance for many years. As long as the Tories stay in power, privatsation likely to continue.
No unfortunately ☹️
Should do privatisation has failed well done Mr major even Maggie wouldn't touch it
One finding will be the urgent need to replace ageing rolling stock with new kit we just don't have
Even if it did why on earth do you think they would listen. Post an example of where the right wing Conservative party have listened!
NO it won't BUT we wish it would!!!!
Just because an industry is nationalised does not mean that it has to be run by politicians.
It will if it's not 'stymied' by political interference!
No
No
No.
No. It will say what the Tory government told him to say.
Of course not. Williams is another ten-a-penny private business idiot consultant whose primary interest is financial... "how can I squeeze every drop of blood from this stone?".
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Two thirds of people in Scotland want ScotRail nationalised says a new YouGov poll. The Scottish Government were awarded powers for public ownership in the Scotland Act 2016. Why are they not using them? ...
Two thirds want state to take over ‘shambolic’ ScotRail
A significant majority of people in Scotland want to nationalise ScotRail, with persistent complaints of delays, cancellations and overcrowding, a poll for The Times has suggested. The YouGov...Share on FacebookShare on TwitterShare on Linked InShare by Email
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Here is a bridge in Brum, an absolute disgrace - I remember in the days of BR these were superbly maintained. Ok it supposed to be back in 'our hands' being Network rail, but clearly not as good a set up as the BR days.
Just think of the cost of the Forth Bridge maintenance alone !! , or do they want to do it half measures only and still have Network Rail look after the infrastructure?
Shambolic has been used quite a bit in various subjects these days. But using it in the same sentence as "ScotRail" is no surprise.
Isn't it already owned by the Dutch government??
We should re nationalise all utilities!
Re nationalise without compensation!
Give the SNP a break they are very busy at the moment taking advantage of the brexit situation for independence to worry about such mundane things as Scotrail.
If it is...That will upset the Scottish witch Sturgeon and independence drive! 🤣
Only 2/3rds?
Is that independent Scotland ,or do they want England to pay for it ?
Independence Rail ! Run by Nicola Crankie and the rest of her cabinet....
Aye cause it worked out perfectly fine when it was public owned before
You need to think on a very high Political level here. Scotland wants independence and to remain in the EU. If Abellio are shafted by the Scottish Government, it is not only an attack on Dutch State Railway but also on the Dutch Government. If the Dutch Government get upset, they are in a powerful position to veto any attempt by Scotland to remain in the EU. The Scottish Government need to act carefully and with caution.
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That could be the problem
It has to pass The SNP policy test. Will it promote independence? Will it have a knock on effect to any other policy that promotes independence? Unless the answers are Yes then No then it won’t happen
Why? Twice as many trains running now.
The SNP are fake Socialists Like Blair their promise to renationalise public services was a lie If it wasn't, like the poster said, why haven't they done it?
Same in Wales. But ''Welsh'' Labour are Thatcherites.
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More great detective work from our friends at the Association of British Commuters. Private train companies will do anything to protect their own interests... ...
Three consumer rights issues every rail passenger needs to know about - Association of British Commuters
Last week, we learned that the Rail Delivery Group failed to communicate changes to penalty fares legislation to train operating companies, leading to the overcharging of up to 10,000 passengers. The overcharging follows a similar scandal revealed in 2018, when the Rail Delivery Group failed to upda...Share on FacebookShare on TwitterShare on Linked InShare by Email
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