Oliver Ferries, London + ShareDarlington is my hometown, and if I want to visit my disabled mother with a day’s notice, it could cost me more than £100 to do so. This is wholly unacceptable.
Oliver Ferries, London + ShareDarlington is my hometown, and if I want to visit my disabled mother with a day’s notice, it could cost me more than £100 to do so. This is wholly unacceptable.
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First item, cancel HS2 as per Lord Berkeley's well thought out and costed alternative(s).
please put transpennie express back into public ownership service over the last year is shocking and still nothing being done lost all faith and confidence in them
All our rail network, plus gas, electric and water should all be in public ownership.
Take all First Group franchises away from them, and if you're not prepared to bring them back into public ownership, at least let Stagecoach back in (but not Virgin) - they at least managed to show a fair degree of competence most of the time.
I wouldn’t welcome her
No. British Rail was racist............https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asquith_Xavier
Agree bring back British Rail
Public companies do not give hand outs to the Tory party.
Re Nationalise the lot, look what happened on the East Coast line. Brought back under public ownership, made millions in profits, this shower privatised it again, makes a loss so they increase the fares ??
This woman could talk all day and not say anything! 🥱
Tony Pearce yes under funded and run down. How come, three nationalised railway companies can manage to run franchises in this country and be profitable. Simple, they are heavily subsidised, they only run the profitable part of the business. Network rail does the expensive maintenance part. Even so the various franchises still struggle to make profits, when subsidised and once in a while, just dump it and run with the money.
Another Tory who wont have a clue
Definitely. If you saw the representative after PMQs deforestation trying to blame rail strikes, covid and labour support for the disasters, looks as though they're getting on the defensive.
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The crisis on Avanti West Coast is escalating – Bring Back British Rail
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No thank you, we remember all too well what British Rail was like under public ownership and if people think the current strikes are inconvenient they are nothing compared to how it was then.Anything publicly owned that doesn't need to make a profit doesn't only losses. Bring on driverless trains etc and it might be worth considering!!
The problem at the moment is this company are treating there employees terribly. They are saying that they are offering I think a 5% payrise and in reality it is less than 2% Then asking them to sign and change their contracts work more weekends on a lesser rate than what they are on now!! But they will always portray that the workers and unions are being greedy and unreasonable. Nothing could be further from the truth.
The railways should be run for the benefit of the passengers not the unions. However they must be paid properly for a full 7 day timetable. I think a ring fenced not for profit enterprise with profits going back into infrastructure etc not to shareholders or foreign government rail services.
The DfT is calling the shots and they are quite deliberately running the railways down, cutting services along the way. Be ready for station and then line closures coming soon. People need to understand this quickly before they do any more damage.
Ownership is irrelevant at the moment - the Operator of Last Resort has said that it couldn't fix the problems either unless DfT gets the pay deals done and Avanti - or whoever operates the service - is allowed to recruit a lot more drivers. As long as the Government carries on with the practice - ALSO USED BY BRITISH RAIL (note please) - of relying on overtime to cover enough duties then the railway will always be vulnerable. BR or whatever would be subject to the same rules... The crisis is "escalating" because of Government interference - there would just be more if BR was recreated.
The rail workers and unions seem to run the railways when they want. The whole rail network is a mess and needs total over haul in running it to actually suit and help the travellers for a reliability and more affordable service to be proud off. Fill the trains and drop prices to encouurage commuters to use regular.
The unions are killing the railway, they can’t pay higher wages if they have no revenue. Strike no train no money simple
They took this franchise off Virgin who ran it without incident because Branson wouldn't back the Tories and gave it to a company that only has its shareholders benefits in mind
I worked for British rail before and after it was privatised . The 1st day no trains ran at all . Typical, tories they buggered up everything
Everything is buggered up,due to successive governments.and the government we have now is the worst I’ve ever known,what a future our grandchildren have to face 😡😡😡
its too late the railway is on it arse its worse tahn its ever been thacher killed the railway and britain just my opinion a s rail user since th e80s sadly times change and the greedy shareholders and ceos killed it off
Nick Dzydza They allowed most incompetent outsiders to run a railway. Stagecoach for example, soon after being awarded the franchise took this inept decision to impose redundancy pay packages on 70 train drivers. This caused so many cancellation of services.
NEVER BRING BACK BRITISH RAIL. for those of you too young to know, it was awful. That's why the system was privatised. No investment, strike now are nothing compared to then. A truly cash starved run down system......everything was always under the threat of closure...yes, under rose tinted glasses we loved the locos and rolling stock,, but it was getting old.....keep it private
The logical thing is nationlise it The tory thing is nationlise is with public money then sell it off cheap Sir keir needs to rethink his policy on nationlisation
British Rail was actually pretty good given the various governments attitudes. Roads get billions without question and no increase in road tax to cover it but rail passengers must make a large contribution to any improvements. Ownership is irrelevant if people don't want to work on the Railway. Avanti have taken a rational approach here. How many moaners actually use them.
Everyone knows if people are paid and treated right positive outcomes follow. Decent basic rate Monday to Friday time and a half on Saturdays and double time Sundays and those who value time at home can and those who want to earn more can the options are there for everyone. Work life balance for all not just for the few.
A better idea would be to give it back to Virgin who did a brilliant job and ran a great service. I remember the railways when they were publicly owned and they were pretty bad (and I am being kind there!)
Public ownership only worked badly at times because they put useless ex ministers in charge!!
Lack of drivers can only be very poor operating managements forward planning (or lack of)
The fact that since second World War the railways have been starved of money. Under all governments. The reterick that the Tories gave was BR bloody rubbish well that wasn't true BR staff worked hard to keep trains running. As do the staff now. It's those who make millions out of these franchises. Money from government should have stopped years ago, yet millions still being payed.
No thanks it was run badly before under British rail. They was even more late and filthy then they are now. Staff has the attitude of a stroppy teenager if you asked them a question. No thanks British public ownership in transport and utilities does not work. It works in other countries as they have different cultures then we have.
The Government probably couldn't afford renationalisation. They could take over the franchise's as they expired but would still need to hire the rolling stock which is privately owned and leased to the operators . Then there are the Rail Freight hauliers which are 100% privately owned so would need to be purchased outright.
Be careful what you wish for I recall nationalised industries in the uk . Always on strike and service was terrible .
Avanti need to go I should have been travelling today to Preston and not for the first time it was cancelled I'm fed up with them when Virgin had the service there were no problems and you could get cheap tickets
The problem is even if they took the franchise off Avanti & handed it to the operator of last resort they have said due to the sheer shortage of drivers even they couldn't salvage the service
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Bring back all companies. Let the UK run it’s businesses and plough profits back in, not into shareholders pockets.
we've had to cancel our trip to the lakes this year due to the incompetence of this company they managed to pay their shareholders £11 million but can't even provide a train service
Please don't do that to railway users. When last nationalised the service was so poor more and more travellers took to the road. Following privatisation, rail use has increased. Don't penalise success but hold the successful to account more effectively. Shareholders take risks when investing, why should tax payers? We are risk heavy already. Please help a rail traveller...well, all of us.
What about mick lynch and the unions run it. They seem to be experts. They could use and the union money and railworkers pension funds to buy the franchise. Then with their Great skills and business knowledge they could make all the rmt members incredibly rich with all the profits and customers would be over the moon with the efficient and reliable services they would provide !!
And yet they find the time and money to paint a whole traine in PRIDE colours,..........what relevance is that to running a railway company.........they should focus on the job in hand..........never mind the gimmicks.
Take back the power
At least with British Rail you had decent comfortable trains, Privatisation has just brought cheap tacky trains, some only 2 coaches on a 4 hour route....and a 2 coach train will generally have only one toilet........I wouldn't call that very civilised.
Some drivers would work 12 hours a day 7 days a week I suppose on that much money they now vote Tory🤪 But when an imbecile like Shapps is unable to grasp what Rest Day means there is not much chance. I was unfortunate enough to work for a company that paid flat rate for rest day and Sunday working but I wouldn't work other than my rostered work.
The trouble us we need a trustworthy government and j don't think they have been born yet. 🤨
Well, my bags packed behind the door waiting for the call. I will be there!
Rumour is they will hand back the keys tomorrow… 🙏🙏
British Rail???? It was awful, delays were commonplace trains were in a worse condition. Be thankful for what you've got.
Ownership is not relevant if nobody wants to work on the Railway. Staff shortages don't respect that it's state owned.
I travelled earlier on the 8.00 from Preston to Euston. My god. How the 1st class facilities have dropped. Tables used to have knives and forks on the tables. Greeted by an empty table. What a come down. Bring back Virgin. The service took some beating. Both dining & presentation wise. Avanti. Forward. Backwards more like. 🤬🤬🤬
I guess most of those campaigning for Public ownership of Trains and Utilities are too young to know how bad things were.
Anything involving First Group ends in an utter shitshow. The withdrawal of their "winning" bid to run West Coast on the previous round of bidding showed doubt even with the DFt. They can hide their toxic brand behind "Avanti West Coast", "Transpennine Express" etc, but the fact they're involved always result in chaos. The proposed investment on the Transpennine routes is ill judged so long as First are involved, their operation has been completely dysfunctional and atrociously unreliable.
It's Ok most franchises have been in government ownership for a while the foreign train operators are.now on a risk free management fee. Privatisation all worked out so well for the foreign owners just like energy and water. So odd only the British financial services companies got into rail.
Government run will mean it will be run to the will of the bean counters in Whitehall. Need to cut back on expenditure so will cut services . Temporary somehow becomes pernambuco. . Somehow cannot see Chiltern still running to brum from London in the new thought after british railways. Why pay for two when one will do. Also hs2 will have all traffic sent on to it at expense of other routes. All happened before and do not think it will change.
This says it all !! The people who want to make it public and put “Bring Back British Rail” on the image have put the British Rail insignia backward. Reminiscent of the service quality when it was BR. Virgin was a revelation when they took over the West Coast line - who knows why they lost the franchise
What about the lease companies, Angel and Porterbrook that bought the trains from the government for nothing and rent them back to the current operators. I don't blame them but they will have to be bought back 😭??
No! have a compulsory vote for all members of all unions and civil servant & look at all their perks free family travel,job and a great pension for life.
Take all Railway companies and Sack the CEO's and put all the profits back into the Government/ Railway then it would be British Rail not this Crap the Great British Rail More Money going to the rail companies
I can book travel to London from Manchester anytime for the next 3 months, so long as I travel to Sheffield first and go that way. Privatised railways don't work, time to admit defeat and bring it back in to public ownership.
You don't need to bring back British Rail or renationalise just bring back Virgin Trains their service was great
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They are cutting the timetable because they rely on overtime to maintain the service due to driver shortages and Shapps doesn’t want drivers to recoup their strike day losses by working overtime. Therefore the public suffer and the timetable is sacrificed.
They must be spending huge amount on refurbishing the Pongolino trains.
Shapps is the Idiots Idiot and doesn't know his brief
Private or not there is a shortage of trained drivers
Privatise the gains and let the public carry the risk !!! A warped Tory philosophy. All contracts to be taken back into Public Ownership once they've finished.
Grant shapps wants to ban overtime for strikers while simultaneously getting angry at staff for not working overtime. Absolutely clueless about his own job.
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The answer to skyrocketing bills is not 'handouts" it is time to take energy (along with water and rail) into state ownership. #Wehavebeenrippedoffforlongenough.
I thought that once the franchise ran out , they were taking them back in house as Great British Railways. yet another tory government con
Avanti West Coast is not a private Co but part of the Italian state railways or the FS,so it is a state owend company just not the British state.
The bosses at Avanti are on the take again www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/train-firm-chief-awarded-1million-27786248
10 more years..... Isn't great British railways supposed to be taking over next year????
Make the whole network publicly owned again
We need public consultations on rolling stock design, as these coaches vestibles have no air con, fill up, narrow gangways and inaccessible trains for mass audience participation.
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As if they replaced the only good private train company (virgin) with this shower of shite 😡
They must have crossed someone's palm with you know what.
They came in with all hotter air of promises now look at the mess they made. Just like the east coast with different companies who failed. Hasn't government realise they are putting more money in now than it did before the privatisation of the railways. I've said it many times before 1923 they realise the mess of the railways and they tried to do something. John Major when privatisation there are ways he took the railways so far back we had more railway companies at one point then we had before 1923 . The managers who did the buyouts they're the ones who made the big money . The private companies have made money. Its when they realise they have to put money into it as well as take it out of it they don't want to know.
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They are barely running a service in normal days.Let alone strike days.Then they are suspending ticket sales.So should people get on one of their trains without a ticket?Then use the excuse you refused to sell me one but I have to make this journey?
You’re looking for 7000 signatures? What good is that? You need a million at least. But signed anyway.
Signed.
Well, they've chosen to go ahead with a programme to refurbish the Pendolinos.
All crook's
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