At 70years old I have lived through both and it was better with no shareholders’ profits to worry about with all profits going to the Treasury to make our lives better.
The East Coast line is doing much better now it is run by the Government again – it is in profit.
This is the age of the train, or not as it happens. What happened to Intercity 250? Why are we stuck at 125mph. How much for a ticket? This is the age of the Megabus.
Commuting should be supported by a public service like power and water. Stop the money junkies taking over everything that once was part of social support for the citizen.
Arriva Trains Wales hands down the worst operators ever. Very expensive. Late and old trains which belong in a museum not the track.
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Never mind the railway’s renationalise all the utilities first we are all being ripped off
If you’ve ever spent an arm, a leg and a bag of fingers on a train ticket, or faced late and cancelled trains, please say so in this consultation.. Bring the railways back into public ownership and end the absurdity of public utilities being privately owned. And please share, thanks.👌
People, obviously, forget how much more of a shambles the railway was before privatisation. Mind you, years of dithering about the change didn't help. I'm sure, in the last 20 years lessons have been learned that should be taken on board in the development of the system, but re-nationalisation would be retrograde and damaging.
I’d be happy with the whole lot owned by the country but it must be run like a commercial company. They must maintain a disciplined, productive workforce and adjust to current commercial forces like DB. Not like the old BR.
I’m old enough to remember my regular commute on British Rail. They were often late. Overpriced. The seats were filthy and tatty at best. The drivers and conductors attitudes were that you owed them a favour if they turned up at all. It was horrible. Today the rail network is much much better. Please don’t opt to go back to the days of state ownership. The unionised workforce will simply turn the rail network into something that works for them and least of all for the passenger.
Perhaps we should bring Westminster back into public ownership as well instead of it being run by big businesses to the detriment of the country??
Not sure why you’d want to bring back British Rail - it was hopeless! The railways aren’t perfect, but they are far better now than they were under British Rail!
I've supported Labour all of my voting life but why when they were in power after the tories privatised the industry didn't Labour bring it back into public ownership ? It's all money money money at the expense of the travelling public. It's a public service after all
You see what it's like since covid and in government control. Under private ownership travellers get the best deals and owners are accountable. Under government control there are strikes and chaos. NO, to state run industry, apart from health and education.
Public transport is an absolute joke. Cancelled at the drop of a hat, or, just doesn't turn up. Then they go on strike, expecting support!! Absolutely not. If you can afford to strike you're already paid too much
I would rather gas/electricity and water the essential in life be brought back into public ownership than be owned by foreign investors
“Bring back British Rail”. Really? 😂😂😂😂. They were an absolute joke. The current set up is far from perfect, but is vastly better than anything the old British Rail could offer. All nationalised industries were just a complete shambles.
Public ownership is great , but with the current idea wanted , with current money wasting Train operating and leasing companies running it all and combining Network rail into , no way, And the current staff are bearing the blame for the later
Bring back British Rail absolutely but bring it back better. In the 1970s British Rail had an advertising slogan "its quicker by rail" the general public had an alternative "its quicker by snail". Poor management, lack of investment and infrastructure, just like now, the difference being certain individuals are making a fortune out of it now while passengers and staff suffer. so bring back a publicly owned British Rail, but invest in it and make it successful.
I remember what the railways were like under public ownership. Crappy, dirty slam door trains that were always late no thanks
Railway workers are over paid and under worked, if it went back into public ownership, the unions would make it too expensive to travel by rail with their ridiculous pay rises they demand. Bring driverless trains in and bring the fare prices down. I know, I worked on the railway and have never earnt so much money.
The headline here has great appeal - but - I suspect the people who advocate it imagine that this privatisation will be backed by a bottomless pit of money - which it will not. The only reason the then Govt put railways out to private tender was to save money ( the same reason they sold off council houses to save having to bring them up to standard ).
Obviously many are not old enough to remember British rail. The problem today is that many franchises are owned by the French, Germans, Dutch etc who use cash to subsidize their own national networks, and Blair and brown must take some of the blame! It's not widely known but Thatcher put riders on privatisation of utilities to prevent them falling into foreign hands but future governments of both colours chose to ignore them!
And the Unions will never go on strike again . Nothing will change in fact by putting the railways into one company the unions will be even more powerful they will blame the government for every dispute
Scotrail is now owned by the people of Scotland🚉
Public and government funding of the Railways will lead to zero investment and cost cutting no matter who is in power. Privatisation whether you like it or not has led to better more frequent services and investment driven by shareholders expecting a return on their investments, with no one to force the government to invest and make the railways an attractive proposition we will be at the mercy of a cost cutting government hell bent on reducing funding. We are already seeing the effects of the government controls with job losses and pay freezes. Routes and early and late trains will come next for the chop.
.might be wrong but isn't some of our railways owned by the French German and Dutch government.
I remember nationalised railways, they were terrible.
The risk is, under the Tories, that if they were to bring it under public ownership, they'd ensure that it was starved of funds. The only reason they are happy to pour money into it now, is that much of it goes directly into profits; the question is whether they would cut the budget more than the amount that is currently syphoned off into profits.
Have you all forgotten what the railways were like when under public ownership 🙈