Mark Gough, Wakefield + ShareWhy privatise profits? East Coast mainline proves the point.
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Damian Gevaux, BuckleyI would like to see BR brought back into service. All the current train liveries have confused me.
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Justin Cryer, Weston-super-MareBritish Railwas more publicly orientated and less just out for profit. It just makes for an awful railway system.
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Peter Neal, RomfordBring the railways back to the nation and reduce the fares by not giving money to shareholders. The East Coast line has improved since being run by the nation.
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Nicholas Dancer, ManchesterOnce the UK is free from the EU and its legislation (including competition, services and state monopoly directives) this should be one of the first things we do.
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Paul Buckley, LeedsThis action is long overdue.
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The railways were awful under British Rail
Why is the logo the wrong way around?
When the Welsh rail systems have recently been merged under Transport for Wales, there have have been issues and problems that are still apparent such as cancellation of services. It doesn't get fixed overnight but hopefully they can be resolved similar to cases like East Coast Main Line under the last Labour Government.
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How soon will we be needing " Bring back the NHS" now that the Health and Care Bill has given the green light to NHS privatisation?
The railcard holder goes down very well with conductors
The logo is the wrong way round.
spend billions 2 get it running properly so that tories can flog it off again
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It's no good freezing fares if they don't up the finance.
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It's almost as if breaking up a nationwide transport network into lots of pieces and selling them off to the private sector was a really crap idea in the first place
It will follow the pattern of the taxpayers investing to make it successful so that the Tories can sell it off cheaply to their mates who will run it into the ground while extracting maximum profit out of it. Some might call me cynical but...
All utilities and transport should be nationalised including fares.
The sooner we view having a service available is a profit to society and doesn’t have to produce a shareholder dividend, the better.
Why give money to shareholders when you can give it to the service
Undoing what other governments have done is never easy...they demand expensive compensation ! I'd give them none. Blame for Privatisation lies squarely with the Tories !
After the taxpayers and customer have been bled dry of billions. It's now real celebration. Lessons need to be learnt, people need to be held accountable for the extortionate swindle.
Problem is the systems been milked for all the privateers and foreign companies could get out of it and that includes a lot of taxpayers money. You can be sure that all in power, including the still all powerful road lobby will be seeking to deny the Nationalised system the investment it needs.
Only regrouping it all to sell off to their mates for a nice bung in the back pocket. Please don't be fooled into thinking this government has anyone's interest at heart, apart from themselves. Going forward I expect less services, higher fares and complaints of "No rollingstock" because they've sent it all to Sims in Newport. TFW will be the only properly nationalised railway.
Great news - let's hope this progresses until the whole lot is back in public ownership as one organisation. But I'm not holding my breath - too many Tory "chums" waiting in the wings for a chance to snap up a bargain if it is offered to them by a cabinet minister they drink with in the village pub.😃
Jonathan Gray might as well renationalise the whole network at this point now 🚅
As a long time sufferer of Govia's delights living in SE London... fingers crossed it's TSGN next to be taken... Honestly, I don't understand why they've been allowed to keep TSGN given the reason SE was stripped.
Should never privateise anything that all the country needs gas or electricity rail put more transportation of goods back onto rail too with distribution centres in all towns
The problem I foresee is these lines will be privatised again once they're profitable. Effectively what we're doing here is bailing out billionaires. Privatising profits and nationalising losses. This isn't even capitalism, it's state sponsored monopoly. The same thing is going on with domestic energy. As smaller energy suppliers go bust their customers are transferred to one of the big six, Centrica, National Grid etc. Government is researching ways to help out these big suppliers. Why not help the smaller ones in the first instance and maintain a competitive market?
We need a Nationalised British Rail with the commercial freedom & independence from the Civil Servants at the Dept For Transport.
still all being run a separate entities though so pray tell me what exactly has changed a[art from the imminent mass job losses
I remember the last time when then Connex South Eastern was nationalised and stayed so for a fair while and even Conservative MP's said they felt things had been going well with improvement in service from end of Connex and pleaded with the Government not to re- franchise it.
Nationalise the railways. You know it makes sense.
Under the williams (shapps) report there is still an element of TOC involment, until that is removed completley things wont change, they can not let go of the ideals privitisation good / nationalisation bad and it would mean admitting they got it wrong 😡
Great Northern must be next. There'll be street parties when Govia gets the boot.
It used to be the case that if a franchise was taken back in house the operator was deemed unfit as an operator - and thus was required to surrender all its franchises.
It was privately run, not privately owned. While I’m a firm believer in nationalisation, there is a difference.
When we get the whole lot back, we need a flat rate per mile of track pricing system. Cost spread over the whole network so that people aren't penalised for where they happen to be.
We're noy getting there at all. We are getting made redundant!! The tory government are having more control over who has a franchise but this isn't a good thing for staff. Voluntary redundancies have been made available, applications are open now. After that there will be forced redundancies.
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In a small (in terms of land area) country like ours it makes sense to have a single state-owned and integrated transport system (which we used to have). Privatisation was a stupid thing to do (done for ideological rather than sensible strategic reasons). Now there are also very good environmental reasons to sort out train travel and bus travel too. This won’t happen with the useless Tories in charge.
Problem in this country is that we have a large part of the electorate that is in love with the upper classes, the class system etc, in no other European country would working class towns vote for a useless party full of useless toffs who have luxury villa holidays in Spain and the Caribbean. Until we stop reading the newspapers and get our facts from real life we will always think things like cheap rail travel secondary.
Maybe we should have a state rail company modelled on Germany. It is crazy that the German state is allowed to run British railways and take the profits but the British Govt is not allowed to
You'll also notice that during the year most Train operators offer heavily discounted ticket prices. There's always a massive demand, which tells me one thing, they don't need to have rail fares as high as they are it's just corporate greed. If the train fares were a fair price they wouldn't need to knock fares right down. Next week for example I'm travelling to Lincoln courtesy of the Northern £1 ticket sale it's cost me £8 return in total for myself and the Mrs. That is good value for money. I'm not saying make ticket prices a £1 but at least make them affordable.
Unfortunately ideology and dogma and private profit won't allow for the common sense of a mixed economy as happens in the successful European countries, same goes for utilities. It seems ok for othe Government to own our infrastructure but not our own Government and people!
no doubt their railways are state run unlike over here where they are privatised and more concerned with lining the pockets of 'fat cat' share holders over offering the public any kind of low cost travel
I drive my car for a day out to the coast for one reason it is cheaper than the train .
Not a chance. Too much profit to be made by the private sector.
Sadly I can’t see that happening here; not whilst we’ve got staunch Capitalist Johnson running the show.
No chance of that here, chances are that they have an interest in our Railways.
that’s how you change habits make it cheaper and easier to do the right option. not try to make the easier and cheaper option harder to use and put up the prices of trains like the uk
When have you heard of anything getting cheaper in the UK?
It's a crazy idea.. but. it. might. just. work..
It could easily be achieved but that would mean no profit for tory party donors who have vested interests in the companies that run the franchises. Whilst capitalism is king nothing will change in this country.
The trouble is that if we did that here the train price wouldn't change, they would just make driving more expensive.
A levy on domestic flights and private jets would go a long way to helping reduce fares and increase investment.
Cheaper fares will unfortunately lead to overcrowding. - just an observation.
Every other Country except ours seems to own our Railways unfortunately
At present it excludes Vienna’s extensive network which is where a large proportion of the population live but it is an excellent idea and well worth replicating. But it requires big government which is anathema to our esteemed govt.,
I lot of people only compare the cost of the train to the fuel they use; so a lot of the time they are not thinking about how much their car is really costing them at all.
A few years ago needed to go to Inverness from East London. Checked costs by car with 1 overnight stop each way. Train and 4 day hire car. Coach and 4 day hire car. Fly and 4 day hire car. Car all the way worked out far, far cheaper. Flying was next cheapest.
I suggest making all local public transport free.This would reduce poverty and divert many towards a sustainable form of transport.
And yet they still have a massive coal industry which exports to China and other places so money talks there as well
Government subsidised and look at the income tax rates to pay for it !
I never go anywhere by train as the price is horrific
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