Richard Copeland, Stevenage + SharePrivatisation is equal to fragmentation of our national network. It does not work.
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Ross Atherton, DunfermlineNationalise the railways.
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Neil Tilstone, ManchesterJust re-nationalise it for all our sakes.
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John Collins, LewesIt should never have been privatised in the first place.
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Rachel Pinder, HitchinNationalised railways belong to the nation. Privatised ones belong to the shareholders who can sell their shares to anyone they like…
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John Maris, NorwichBritish Rail was finally getting its act together when the ill-conceived 1993 Railways Act was foisted upon them.
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The TOC's own absolutely nothing, the whole shooting match is still 100% owned by the UK government. The whole 'privatisation' excercise was an excercise in smoke and mirrors to stay on the right side of eu competition rules.
Except HS2 thank you. We taxpayers do not want the responsibility for the catastrophic inevitable losses - neither the exorbitant cost of building this disaster NOR for subsidising and keeping it running because it will never, ever pay for itself. The latest report from the Infrastructure Authority has just downgraded HS2 from Amber-Red to Red. Go figure.
What excuse can this SHAMBOLIC Government come up with now to not Take Back our Trains after all we are now out of Europe which they wanted , now Little Britain the Trains belong to us
What a pair to be making such an important decision. Schapps will botch it and Patel will insist it is only for white people!
No thanks I can’t afford it
It's all very well, to say this but aren't some franchises owned by state operators. Part of the irony, they're foreign ones. I should now, I live in the Abileo Greater Anglia area
Ironic isn't it- our railway companies part owned by the Dutch, French and German state railways.
We help put money into foreign transport so they can get better cheaper travel. They are laughing at us. We need to take OUR COUNTRY BACK.
If the money that has been spent on all these private train operators , even by govenment subsidys .had been spent on the old british rail , we would of had the best system in the world . thank god Branson is no longer so called opperating any trains , or he would of gone to the government , cap in hand demanding a bailout
As the reason the government wanted to privatise the railways was because they had to subsidise them, there really is no reason to leave them in private hands when they are still subsidising them. It’s a nonsense.
And the buses! South Western Railway have failed to deliver on every promise they made when they got the franchise and are still rolling more than half their fleet in SWT livery! Their priority seems to lie in ticket collectors not counter staff and Friday afternoon's out of Basingrad are always a nightmare!
CHARITY BEGINS AT HOME UK Government......Wake up n smell the roses The British need their railways n profits need to stay in the UK
All railways are owned by the government at the moment
As much as I would like to see it having worked for Network South East I think your find it will go to managed contract's.Then they will be squeezed every year to make cost savings & unfortunately the staff will be the largest cost. 😢
It is time to take back OUR BRITAIN. Seize the assets spuriously acquired by the crown, government and the elite fat cat society. Return the assets to the NATION for the benefit (right) of the GENERAL PUBLIC.
"Take back out trains" perfectly summarised by a platform with no trains.
Take back our trains, you mean the ones built by Germany?
Get rid off SWR. That railway operator is beyond a joke.
What back to the good old days stikes late arrival dirty carriages dried up sandwiches unhelpful guards
Start with SWR ('owned' by GWR and MTR) as MTR is the Hong Kong Rapid Transit company. That'll excite the Chinese...
I agree 👍
Don't let governments run railways... They only think in the short term until the next election. You cannot plan railways for the future as long as you let governments with their short term thinking get involved
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Could South Western Railway and TransPennine Express Trains be about to be re-nationalised? 🚆 Read the latest exposé from our friends at the Association of British Commuters and take action to #TakeBackOurTrains 📝👉 weownit.org.uk/take-back-our-trains ...
CLUELESS: Chaos at the DfT as Shapps evades scrutiny on government plans for rail - Association of British Commuters
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As predicted in our last blog, it is now clear that the government has no idea what to do when the ‘Emergency Measures Agreements’ run out in September. After news hit the press that train companies are seeking a 12-18 month extension to their bailout, Grant Shapps was able to bury the story at ...Share on FacebookShare on TwitterShare on Linked InShare by Email
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Even though I have now Retired, I would LOVE to see it return to British Rail rather than how it now is. Yes I do have a few shares as such, but WHAT profit we do get a year, IS AN INSULT to say the least. Seriously, we get less than £25.00 per year.
Oh, pleeeeeeeeeeeease!! XX
As a railway employee the last 3/4 months the punctuality has been fantastic less trains means a railway that can run smoothly hopefully we don’t go back to the old model of a saturated railway
You put a spiv with no industry experience in charge of transport, and this is what you get
More public money for failed privatisation. It's a win win situation for Tory donors.
We get 159's past our house and today one was really crowded. There were three people on it.
Shapps is more slippery than a greased weasel ... in a game of 'Whack-a-Mole' I would concentrate on him ...
They have no plans they are just a bunch of rabbits caught in the headlights.
Nit called the Dept for Tomfuckery for nothing. ..
they're just thinking how to skim more out of the next budget, Never a thought about giving it back to the country.
The Tory Govt is sure to pick the worst option for the travelling public & the best option for skimming money into private pockets.
No they maybe renegotiated but will never be run by the state. Problem will be what incentive will there be in future to continue to invest in new stock . Improved facilities and timetables. Very little i suspect
Under privatisation there's no such thing as a business model in recovering costs even with the highest fares in Europe. It's simply totally subsidised by the taxpayer.
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‘Britain's railways will be 'renationalised' using emergency coronavirus measures - ending the current franchise system’ 🚆 Grant Shapps’ proposal is to replace rail franchises with contracts managed by publicly-owned Network Rail, instead of the Department for Transport. It could be an improvement on the current shambles, but do we really need private rail companies involved at all? Let's #TakeBackOurTrains! Take action at 📝👉 weownit.org.uk/take-back-our-trains
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Rail travel, along with all public transport should be a standard cost per mile (or Km) and should be compatible with travelling in a car alone. Say 12 p per mile. It should not be a profit making business but a public service. There should not be huge differences according to when you travel and NO class system.
We need a single, integrated publicly owned and accountable entity. No need for or point in any privateer involvement.
The government can't manage private companies with the NHS, so don't hold out hope for the railways.
Oh I see where they're doing. During the Coronavirus crisis, social distancing means that the privatised rail franchisees can't make their huge profits, so the state jumps in to take that loss. Once they're profitable, they'll be given back. Don't we just love neoliberal capitalism?
Let’s keep it permanent and run it for our benefit, not just for shareholders and top execs
Another privatisation failure, it’s hilarious that the conservatives are having to do it, they have used public funds to support these companies.
Well as this report is in the Daily Fail, and concerns a "report" about a "Grant Shapps' proposal", I wouldn't believe a single word of it, because I am in a quandary as to who tell more lies, the supposed "journalists" who write articles in the Daily Fail, or tory government Ministers !!!!
Now as long as we're currently in the EU we can't can we? I thought that the EU rules were that one company couldn't run the infrastructure and trains. So to nationalise the trains, they'd have to be run by a different company. Government owned but separate. That was my understanding.
Network Rail's charter doesn't allow for it to be a train operator, so I don't see how that is feasible...
We don`t need nationalised company`s, fat cat wages more managers than workers seen it all before
They are only taking them back so that the taxpayer can pay to fix up the shambles that the private sector made of them and then give away taxpayer business value for a song to other rich Tories to make a private sector fat profit and shambles of again.
Fares and timetables in the hands of ministers??? Of what fun lies ahead
Yet when Labour suggested this it was crazy
As if bike use is going to continue in the same way after the virus has passed! Once winter comes it will be locked in the shed.
doing his best there to resemble a bygone image of trainspotters
Renationalise yes franchise of any name NO
Would be nice! But i honestly think this is fake news
tories have to have their pals involved so they can blame public when its crap private when its good
bring back br !!
Pure evil, they need to go, all of em.
In Germany DB is state owned and runs 80% of the German Network, the same as NL 🇳🇱. 80% of the bus network is the same too. The local council runs buses and only contractors are bought in to make up any shortfall.
Get it done
34 of the top 50 highest paid people in the public sector work on the railway. So that will now be relegation for the other 16.
I see no nationalisation anywhere in these proposals. Very little change from the current system. I know what he's at. He'll say to the public, 'There. We nationalised the railways just as you wanted.' While nothing real has happened at all. Another Con-trick.
A managed franchise is probably the worst outcome. If they are given a certain amount of money to run it then the only cost savings are the staff 😢
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Don't let Rail Barons Hold us to Ransom! Take action to tell Grant Shapps and Rishi Sunak to #TakeBackOurTrains 📝👉 weownit.org.uk/take-back-our-trainsOn the front page of today's Morning Star - our campaign to take back our trains and end the farce of privatisation.
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Just let the companies who the frachises go bankrupt then let the government step in take them over for free
there is no point in telling Shapps and Sunak anything...you'll be ignored...they're Tories FFS
Which other daily paper is backing the campaign? Because if there is one, it will no doubt also be posted here.
As bad as the daily fail when promoted the privatisation as anything is better than the evil BR
Because in this case it is correct.
Ithiink it's called democracy?after all Britain first etc are given a platform
Commie bog roll
Communists rag
Why is this communist rag being promoted on here ?
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"A campaign launched last week pushing for renationalisation has already resulted 17,000 emails being sent to the government on the issue" says City AM about our new #TakeBackOurTrains campaign!
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Renationalisation is an ugly word, and the BBBR is too long without actually making me punch the air and say "yay!". So we go with "Make Trains great again". You get the idea. Think of something better. "You pay £100 more per month because of privatisation". "Your service will be cut, or you will pay more. We can stop that". "We can afford cheaper train tickets, can you afford more expensive child care?"
Sadly nothing can be done until we are free of eu legislation at the end of the year after which it could be made to happen
This is an article full of nothing but opinions. Such a shame but the government will still do as they please (go with what makes them money) in the long run.
Network Rail’s debt has now reached the dizzying heights of £60,000,000,000
The government have dry fucked the railways since Beeching, why do people think giving the railway back to governments that have fucked the armed forces, emergency services and the NHS so they can fuck the railway further?
Just cancel hs2. 100 billion saved. BOOM
How about a direct campaign to get people permitted to travel by train again and stop the industry being killed off. For the moment it doesn’t matter who runs the railway, unless people start travelling again, there will not be an industry left to debate.
ever thought about a massive "crowd funding" campaign to buy up all of the shares? WHats the buy out value of the train companies?
All that is needed is for everyone to stop paying their fare on all PUBLIC TRANSPORT. After all WE the GENERAL PUBLIC "OWN" IT.
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According to a DfT data sheet for 2019 just 2% of total journeys were made by rail in England in 2018. Seems that the rail network might not be as essential to the general public as we in the industry would like to believe in which case the privatisation debate is purely academic.
We own it now.
I live on the Swansea to London line over the last three months I've seen no-one on the train in either direction. In diesel alone over the 3 months lockdown is £3m in fuel alone. WTF
They done so well last time
Tories will never admit they were wrong.
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