BR was a nationwide co-ordinated rail system. BR needed much less government subsidy than the current fragmented privatised system. Bring back BR.
British Rail had better timetables. The prices were cheaper which allowed more people to use trains in off peak times. The service was brilliant..
The main people transport has to be public.
Other countries manage their transport systems with nationalised, integrated services. Some of them even own some of our railway networks. Surely we could do the same?
It is only with the basic infrastructure of a country run well and for all that real business can work for the benefit of all.
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It's almost as if breaking up a nationwide transport network into lots of pieces and selling them off to the private sector was a really crap idea in the first place
It will follow the pattern of the taxpayers investing to make it successful so that the Tories can sell it off cheaply to their mates who will run it into the ground while extracting maximum profit out of it. Some might call me cynical but...
All utilities and transport should be nationalised including fares.
The sooner we view having a service available is a profit to society and doesn’t have to produce a shareholder dividend, the better.
Why give money to shareholders when you can give it to the service
Undoing what other governments have done is never easy...they demand expensive compensation ! I'd give them none. Blame for Privatisation lies squarely with the Tories !
After the taxpayers and customer have been bled dry of billions. It's now real celebration. Lessons need to be learnt, people need to be held accountable for the extortionate swindle.
Problem is the systems been milked for all the privateers and foreign companies could get out of it and that includes a lot of taxpayers money. You can be sure that all in power, including the still all powerful road lobby will be seeking to deny the Nationalised system the investment it needs.
Only regrouping it all to sell off to their mates for a nice bung in the back pocket. Please don't be fooled into thinking this government has anyone's interest at heart, apart from themselves. Going forward I expect less services, higher fares and complaints of "No rollingstock" because they've sent it all to Sims in Newport. TFW will be the only properly nationalised railway.
Great news - let's hope this progresses until the whole lot is back in public ownership as one organisation. But I'm not holding my breath - too many Tory "chums" waiting in the wings for a chance to snap up a bargain if it is offered to them by a cabinet minister they drink with in the village pub.😃
Jonathan Gray might as well renationalise the whole network at this point now 🚅
As a long time sufferer of Govia's delights living in SE London... fingers crossed it's TSGN next to be taken... Honestly, I don't understand why they've been allowed to keep TSGN given the reason SE was stripped.
Should never privateise anything that all the country needs gas or electricity rail put more transportation of goods back onto rail too with distribution centres in all towns
The problem I foresee is these lines will be privatised again once they're profitable. Effectively what we're doing here is bailing out billionaires. Privatising profits and nationalising losses. This isn't even capitalism, it's state sponsored monopoly. The same thing is going on with domestic energy. As smaller energy suppliers go bust their customers are transferred to one of the big six, Centrica, National Grid etc. Government is researching ways to help out these big suppliers. Why not help the smaller ones in the first instance and maintain a competitive market?
We need a Nationalised British Rail with the commercial freedom & independence from the Civil Servants at the Dept For Transport.
still all being run a separate entities though so pray tell me what exactly has changed a[art from the imminent mass job losses
I remember the last time when then Connex South Eastern was nationalised and stayed so for a fair while and even Conservative MP's said they felt things had been going well with improvement in service from end of Connex and pleaded with the Government not to re- franchise it.
Nationalise the railways. You know it makes sense.
Under the williams (shapps) report there is still an element of TOC involment, until that is removed completley things wont change, they can not let go of the ideals privitisation good / nationalisation bad and it would mean admitting they got it wrong 😡
Great Northern must be next. There'll be street parties when Govia gets the boot.
It used to be the case that if a franchise was taken back in house the operator was deemed unfit as an operator - and thus was required to surrender all its franchises.
It was privately run, not privately owned. While I’m a firm believer in nationalisation, there is a difference.
When we get the whole lot back, we need a flat rate per mile of track pricing system. Cost spread over the whole network so that people aren't penalised for where they happen to be.
We're noy getting there at all. We are getting made redundant!! The tory government are having more control over who has a franchise but this isn't a good thing for staff. Voluntary redundancies have been made available, applications are open now. After that there will be forced redundancies.
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"Privatisation... has delivered a service that is expensive, unreliable and dysfunctional" 🚍🚊💷 Don't miss former UN Special Rapporteur Philip Alston's & Bassam Khawaja's devastating critique of UK bus policy. Read the report: bit.ly/AlstonBusReport Watch the full video here: bit.ly/3i08jLo ...
Watch the full video of the Britain’s Bus Crisis: Privatisation, Poverty & Human Rights event: www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrAnhTTbjMM
Read the full 'Public Transport, Private Profit' report: bit.ly/AlstonBusReport
Privatizing has buggered up the electricity industry, the gas industry, the water industry and the waste disposal industry too. Some things should be considered a service and run to provide just that at an economic cost not a way of milking the end users.
I sympathise with their sentiments and agree for the most part. However I have seen far better written reports than this. I note with interest the total lack of integration across the public transport network, it is of course a universal truth, a result not just of operator competition, but of competing modes. The great shame in all of this is that once upon a time, all of the large and many of the smaller urban areas had their own bus or occasionally tram networks provided by the local authorities. They offered usually a high quality service tailored to local needs, Manchester (mentioned in the report) being a classic case.
The buses and trains need to be put back in public hands we at the moment subsidies them ever since the Tories sold them of so how can you tell me that they are private companys
As with everything else the Tory’s de- nationalised
Has the government's decarbonisation policy hit fever point?
but as it doesn't affect them, they don't care
......I was up in Edinburgh a couple of months ago. That parts of Britain's railways are publicity run, I noticed that this organisation keeps things moving more.