Michael Williams, Gravesend + ShareFive times the subsidy of the old BR. I don’t think this is sustainable.
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Hannah Straw, NottinghamTrain travel is now prohibitively expensive. Smaller stations are not serviced, meaning that only wealthy people who live in well-connected places can use it.
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Lewis George, AndoverWe need a British Rail, for the people, for Great Britain.
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David Swan, LondonA country needs an infrastructure. Tories believe everything should make private profit, but charging higher and higher prices beyond customers’ wallets is no answer.
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Adam Stacey, WakefieldExtortionate rail fares and ancient, late-running trains. Look at Wakefield Kirkgate. I’ve been told that the train is late due to an abandoned freight train blocking platforms.
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Angela Bell, DidcotI’m fed up with cancelled trains and rising fares.
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Privatise the gains and let the public carry the risk !!! A warped Tory philosophy. All contracts to be taken back into Public Ownership once they've finished.
Private or not there is a shortage of trained drivers
Grant shapps wants to ban overtime for strikers while simultaneously getting angry at staff for not working overtime. Absolutely clueless about his own job.
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The answer to skyrocketing bills is not 'handouts" it is time to take energy (along with water and rail) into state ownership. #Wehavebeenrippedoffforlongenough.
Avanti West Coast is not a private Co but part of the Italian state railways or the FS,so it is a state owend company just not the British state.
I thought that once the franchise ran out , they were taking them back in house as Great British Railways. yet another tory government con
10 more years..... Isn't great British railways supposed to be taking over next year????
As if they replaced the only good private train company (virgin) with this shower of shite 😡
They must have crossed someone's palm with you know what.
They came in with all hotter air of promises now look at the mess they made. Just like the east coast with different companies who failed. Hasn't government realise they are putting more money in now than it did before the privatisation of the railways. I've said it many times before 1923 they realise the mess of the railways and they tried to do something. John Major when privatisation there are ways he took the railways so far back we had more railway companies at one point then we had before 1923 . The managers who did the buyouts they're the ones who made the big money . The private companies have made money. Its when they realise they have to put money into it as well as take it out of it they don't want to know.
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They are barely running a service in normal days.Let alone strike days.Then they are suspending ticket sales.So should people get on one of their trains without a ticket?Then use the excuse you refused to sell me one but I have to make this journey?
You’re looking for 7000 signatures? What good is that? You need a million at least. But signed anyway.
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Well, they've chosen to go ahead with a programme to refurbish the Pendolinos.
All crook's
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What planet do they are on? It's a total waste of time and money. The simple answer would be the glory days of British Rail sectorisation but they haven't got a clue.
I disagree with this point from the article "Finally, the government wants to sign up to the Luxembourg Rail Protocol; a way of liberalising and globalising the Rolling Stock Companies (ROSCOs), making it easier for the big banks to get involved. However, the leasing of trains under the ROSCO system is already one of the most dysfunctional areas of the railway; as well as the biggest site of profit leakage." - the ROSCOs freed the railways from the DoT's purse strings allowing new rolling stock to come on stream there is absolutely no way that the DoT would have authorised that much expenditure as history proves.
How much will this cost the tax payer just changing the logos etc.
What's with all the hoodies in the Cabinet? I mean, Sunak can just about get away with it, but he's a tender 42 and diddy. Shapps is 53, for fuck's sake.
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This cretin is a weapons grade wankspangle
Schapps couldn’t even run a Ponzi scheme Sums him up totally
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Never mind the railway’s renationalise all the utilities first we are all being ripped off
If you’ve ever spent an arm, a leg and a bag of fingers on a train ticket, or faced late and cancelled trains, please say so in this consultation.. Bring the railways back into public ownership and end the absurdity of public utilities being privately owned. And please share, thanks.👌
Perhaps we should bring Westminster back into public ownership as well instead of it being run by big businesses to the detriment of the country??
People, obviously, forget how much more of a shambles the railway was before privatisation. Mind you, years of dithering about the change didn't help. I'm sure, in the last 20 years lessons have been learned that should be taken on board in the development of the system, but re-nationalisation would be retrograde and damaging.
I’m old enough to remember my regular commute on British Rail. They were often late. Overpriced. The seats were filthy and tatty at best. The drivers and conductors attitudes were that you owed them a favour if they turned up at all. It was horrible. Today the rail network is much much better. Please don’t opt to go back to the days of state ownership. The unionised workforce will simply turn the rail network into something that works for them and least of all for the passenger.
I’d be happy with the whole lot owned by the country but it must be run like a commercial company. They must maintain a disciplined, productive workforce and adjust to current commercial forces like DB. Not like the old BR.
Not sure why you’d want to bring back British Rail - it was hopeless! The railways aren’t perfect, but they are far better now than they were under British Rail!
I've supported Labour all of my voting life but why when they were in power after the tories privatised the industry didn't Labour bring it back into public ownership ? It's all money money money at the expense of the travelling public. It's a public service after all
You see what it's like since covid and in government control. Under private ownership travellers get the best deals and owners are accountable. Under government control there are strikes and chaos. NO, to state run industry, apart from health and education.
Public transport is an absolute joke. Cancelled at the drop of a hat, or, just doesn't turn up. Then they go on strike, expecting support!! Absolutely not. If you can afford to strike you're already paid too much
I would rather gas/electricity and water the essential in life be brought back into public ownership than be owned by foreign investors
“Bring back British Rail”. Really? 😂😂😂😂. They were an absolute joke. The current set up is far from perfect, but is vastly better than anything the old British Rail could offer. All nationalised industries were just a complete shambles.
Public ownership is great , but with the current idea wanted , with current money wasting Train operating and leasing companies running it all and combining Network rail into , no way, And the current staff are bearing the blame for the later
Bring back British Rail absolutely but bring it back better. In the 1970s British Rail had an advertising slogan "its quicker by rail" the general public had an alternative "its quicker by snail". Poor management, lack of investment and infrastructure, just like now, the difference being certain individuals are making a fortune out of it now while passengers and staff suffer. so bring back a publicly owned British Rail, but invest in it and make it successful.
I remember what the railways were like under public ownership. Crappy, dirty slam door trains that were always late no thanks
Railway workers are over paid and under worked, if it went back into public ownership, the unions would make it too expensive to travel by rail with their ridiculous pay rises they demand. Bring driverless trains in and bring the fare prices down. I know, I worked on the railway and have never earnt so much money.
The headline here has great appeal - but - I suspect the people who advocate it imagine that this privatisation will be backed by a bottomless pit of money - which it will not. The only reason the then Govt put railways out to private tender was to save money ( the same reason they sold off council houses to save having to bring them up to standard ).
Obviously many are not old enough to remember British rail. The problem today is that many franchises are owned by the French, Germans, Dutch etc who use cash to subsidize their own national networks, and Blair and brown must take some of the blame! It's not widely known but Thatcher put riders on privatisation of utilities to prevent them falling into foreign hands but future governments of both colours chose to ignore them!
And the Unions will never go on strike again . Nothing will change in fact by putting the railways into one company the unions will be even more powerful they will blame the government for every dispute
Scotrail is now owned by the people of Scotland🚉
Public and government funding of the Railways will lead to zero investment and cost cutting no matter who is in power. Privatisation whether you like it or not has led to better more frequent services and investment driven by shareholders expecting a return on their investments, with no one to force the government to invest and make the railways an attractive proposition we will be at the mercy of a cost cutting government hell bent on reducing funding. We are already seeing the effects of the government controls with job losses and pay freezes. Routes and early and late trains will come next for the chop.
.might be wrong but isn't some of our railways owned by the French German and Dutch government.
I remember nationalised railways, they were terrible.
The risk is, under the Tories, that if they were to bring it under public ownership, they'd ensure that it was starved of funds. The only reason they are happy to pour money into it now, is that much of it goes directly into profits; the question is whether they would cut the budget more than the amount that is currently syphoned off into profits.
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I would vote for any party that took back all public utilities into public ownership. Labour needs to go back to it’s left wing roots not keep trying to be Tory Light!
Labour should be making hay while the tories are in disarray. That’s the reason boris lasted so long, the tories have nothing to fear. They will win nothing with beige Keir in charge !. No one knows what they really stand for. Then he goes and sacks his transport minister for standing on a picket line, talk about an own goal !
But i dont trust Starmer !! :/
I no longer understand what Labour stands for. The party could win an election but???
Corbyn's policies were liked, it was him that wasn't. Wake up Starmer before it is to late.
Why is it everyone knows the water companies are dumping raw sewage in our streams and waterways !( we pay to receive it and we pay to dispose of it)but know one is being prosecuted,if a farmer or small business pollutes water they are taken to court and fined quite large sums,why are they above the law
Starmer is a champagne socialist, should never have become the Labour leader
Your supposed to be labour,carry on like this and you’ll be third in the next election.You should be supporting the strikers not sacking one of your own.Disgusted to be a labour voter.
We have had nationalisation before and all that money wasted when theirs sold it off again ! Make a decision between all you parties and get it working and stick to it !
Railways nationalised? Can't see it happening even if Labour ever gets back in.
Labour are being Tories
.....if we can recall the railways under the last Labour government. It was worst but then only East Coast Main Line was brought back into public ownership and it thrived well.
they won't do it because it's what Corbyn wanted to do, and they'd rather be Tory than have anything to do with Corbyn
Labour is being too Conservative.
Don't you mean WEF ownership!
It will never happen. The Railways in the UK have been the greatest Political football, from 1948 until now. MP have shares in the Companies that supply the Railway.
Starmer needs to man up and stop being a right drip.
Tory-lite
The people who bought nationalised industries at knock-down prices have made enough. Take them back with no compensation at the price they were sold
Am I right in thinking even UKIP wanted this?
Stammer is a social democrat and he missed the boat like so many when Woy, shifty Shirl, Dr Death and the invisible Bill. We tragically didn't really get to see what a social democrat shyster John Smith was, but we got stuck with Blair and his privilege club. Let's get Labour back on course as a democratic socialist party with a commitment to nationalise where there are services that are part of the everyday needs of the nation. Water, gas, electricity rail and public transport. Social health, paliative health and trauma health all free to everyone with a egalitarian education system where money doesn't buy you a position, that is gained by merit.
I am NOT voting for them.
And how much further in debt will buying all that back make us?
If you believe that getting elected is the only way to change things then go for the lowest common denominators pander to racism and anti immigration ideas , attack anything woke and the Lbtq+ community. Try and attract Tory voters and scabs in fact become a petty Tory party and support capitalism and it’s wars and destruction of the planet .The Labour Party no longer represents working class people . Join A union fight back and even better become someone who try’s to change the whole damm system !!!
Labour want nothing to change while.pretending they're different to try and win votes
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